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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Save Trestles&#8221; campaign trying to get  support for new toll road meeting</title>
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		<title>By: Pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Building additional road system improvements (like the 241 extension) without taxpayer dollars is the most equitable situation possible.  Only future road users will pay for the 241.

If a nuclear power plant has not ruined the adjacent beaches by now, I think that it is more than just a little naive to believe a freeway intersection (designed with advanced civil engineering principles) will have a larger impact.   Half truths and inuendos regarding the possible negative impact of treated storm water runoff will eventually be exposed as untrue.   Lay people, whether a member of Surfriders Foundation or not, should still rely on trained, educated technical experts to interpret science.  Emotional hysteria is not based on scientific facts.    SAVE  THE  TOLLROAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building additional road system improvements (like the 241 extension) without taxpayer dollars is the most equitable situation possible.  Only future road users will pay for the 241.</p>
<p>If a nuclear power plant has not ruined the adjacent beaches by now, I think that it is more than just a little naive to believe a freeway intersection (designed with advanced civil engineering principles) will have a larger impact.   Half truths and inuendos regarding the possible negative impact of treated storm water runoff will eventually be exposed as untrue.   Lay people, whether a member of Surfriders Foundation or not, should still rely on trained, educated technical experts to interpret science.  Emotional hysteria is not based on scientific facts.    SAVE  THE  TOLLROAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares. I live in Newport. I say build it. Trestles is too crowded these days anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares. I live in Newport. I say build it. Trestles is too crowded these days anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: TeriiK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeriiK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put meow... you'd think an 8-2 vote by the coastal commision would be enough to put this proposal in the grave, but the TCA's disregard for the commisions decision and the public's  overwhelming opposition, shows what they are after....money. I invite everyone who still thinks the people's decision should be upheld to be at the meeting on July 25th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put meow&#8230; you&#8217;d think an 8-2 vote by the coastal commision would be enough to put this proposal in the grave, but the TCA&#8217;s disregard for the commisions decision and the public&#8217;s  overwhelming opposition, shows what they are after&#8230;.money. I invite everyone who still thinks the people&#8217;s decision should be upheld to be at the meeting on July 25th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MEOW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT ISSUE... 

The Transportation Corridor Agency is seeking to build an extension to the existing 241 Toll Road. The proposed Foothill Transportation Corridor South (FTC-South) is a sixteen-mile long toll road highway that would connect the current terminus of the 241 Toll Road to Interstate 5. The TCA is proposing six alignments for this project; four of which run directly through and along San Mateo Creek. If constructed, not only would this project directly threaten the world class surf break at and around Trestles (including Uppers, Lowers, Middles, Church and Cottons), the project would also result in the obliteration of Southern California’s last remaining pristine coastal watershed and substantially degrade habitat that is critical for the survival of at least seven endangered species, including the Southern Steelhead trout. 

HOW WILL THE 241 SAN MATEO CREEK ALIGNMENT AFFECT THE SURFING EXPERIENCE? 

Wave Degradation 
This project would require substantial grading of the terrain and millions of yards of hard reinforcement (steel, concrete and other materials), that will alter the natural sediment flow through San Mateo Creek,, which supplies sand to the Trestles surf breaks. 
According to the Transportation Corridor Agency’s own engineering consultants, losses in sedimentation flow would cause “substantial degradation to surfing resources,” which will likely result in significant degradation to the wave quality at Lower Trestles and nearby breaks (including Uppers, Middles, Cottons and Church). 
Water Quality 
A recent scientific report demonstrates that when over 10 percent of a watershed is paved there are significant water quality and ecosystem impacts. 
Similar projects have resulted in generating significant increases of oils, heavy metals and other toxins. Given the proximity of the project to the watershed, this project would result in a decrease of water quality for Trestles and the surrounding breaks. 
The TCA’s assertion that they can mitigate for this run-off is dubious. The initial mitigation systems that were installed on the nearby RT73 Toll Road failed, and had to be replaced at tax-payer expense. All mitigation efforts are ineffective during large rain events. 

Environmental Damage from the Toll Road 
The walk in at Trestles is half the experience. The area is home to numerous native plant and animal species, including several endangered species. This area would be profoundly impacted by such a massive project essentially cutting the San Mateo Creek watershed in half. 
The FTC-South will run directly through San Onofre Beach State Park. This 2028 acre park the 5th most visited park in the California State Parks system. 
The San Mateo Creek Watershed is one of the last large coastal open spaces in Southern California The FTC-South will forever change this last vestige of coastal wilderness, including profound compromises to the Donna O’Neill Land Conservancy. 

THE PROJECT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO BEGIN WITH... 

It Provides No Traffic Relief 
TCA claims that the FTC-South will provide relief of traffic congestion along Interstate 5 in fact contradict their own FTC-South traffic projections that rely on cannibalizing San Diego County bound traffic from the I-15 and feeding that Inland Empire traffic to the I-5 via the toll roads. 
FTC-South would be built through undeveloped land, which would promote development, and ultimately bring forth new traffic from urbanization. 
FTC-South will increase, not decrease traffic on the 1-5 stretch in south San Clemente where the proposed toll road will merge with 1-5, which is already at over-capacity along this stretch. Northern San Diego County will also be affected by potentially severe increases in traffic congestion. 

Expense 
The FTC-South is expected to cost close to $1 billion (nearly $53 million a mile). Currently the plan is to fund the project by non-recourse bonds, as well as development impact fees that are already being added to real estate sales in Southern Orange County. 
Contrary to TCA claims, these projects are NOT SELF FUNDED! According to an October 10, 2005 article in the Orange County Register, the nearby RT73 Toll Road is “financially struggling” and “faces not being able to make its debt payments in about nine years.” 

 
SAVE TRSTLES! OPPOSE THE TOLL ROAD!
-rally to save it july 25 in irvine. show the support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT ISSUE&#8230; </p>
<p>The Transportation Corridor Agency is seeking to build an extension to the existing 241 Toll Road. The proposed Foothill Transportation Corridor South (FTC-South) is a sixteen-mile long toll road highway that would connect the current terminus of the 241 Toll Road to Interstate 5. The TCA is proposing six alignments for this project; four of which run directly through and along San Mateo Creek. If constructed, not only would this project directly threaten the world class surf break at and around Trestles (including Uppers, Lowers, Middles, Church and Cottons), the project would also result in the obliteration of Southern California’s last remaining pristine coastal watershed and substantially degrade habitat that is critical for the survival of at least seven endangered species, including the Southern Steelhead trout. </p>
<p>HOW WILL THE 241 SAN MATEO CREEK ALIGNMENT AFFECT THE SURFING EXPERIENCE? </p>
<p>Wave Degradation<br />
This project would require substantial grading of the terrain and millions of yards of hard reinforcement (steel, concrete and other materials), that will alter the natural sediment flow through San Mateo Creek,, which supplies sand to the Trestles surf breaks.<br />
According to the Transportation Corridor Agency’s own engineering consultants, losses in sedimentation flow would cause “substantial degradation to surfing resources,” which will likely result in significant degradation to the wave quality at Lower Trestles and nearby breaks (including Uppers, Middles, Cottons and Church).<br />
Water Quality<br />
A recent scientific report demonstrates that when over 10 percent of a watershed is paved there are significant water quality and ecosystem impacts.<br />
Similar projects have resulted in generating significant increases of oils, heavy metals and other toxins. Given the proximity of the project to the watershed, this project would result in a decrease of water quality for Trestles and the surrounding breaks.<br />
The TCA’s assertion that they can mitigate for this run-off is dubious. The initial mitigation systems that were installed on the nearby RT73 Toll Road failed, and had to be replaced at tax-payer expense. All mitigation efforts are ineffective during large rain events. </p>
<p>Environmental Damage from the Toll Road<br />
The walk in at Trestles is half the experience. The area is home to numerous native plant and animal species, including several endangered species. This area would be profoundly impacted by such a massive project essentially cutting the San Mateo Creek watershed in half.<br />
The FTC-South will run directly through San Onofre Beach State Park. This 2028 acre park the 5th most visited park in the California State Parks system.<br />
The San Mateo Creek Watershed is one of the last large coastal open spaces in Southern California The FTC-South will forever change this last vestige of coastal wilderness, including profound compromises to the Donna O’Neill Land Conservancy. </p>
<p>THE PROJECT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO BEGIN WITH&#8230; </p>
<p>It Provides No Traffic Relief<br />
TCA claims that the FTC-South will provide relief of traffic congestion along Interstate 5 in fact contradict their own FTC-South traffic projections that rely on cannibalizing San Diego County bound traffic from the I-15 and feeding that Inland Empire traffic to the I-5 via the toll roads.<br />
FTC-South would be built through undeveloped land, which would promote development, and ultimately bring forth new traffic from urbanization.<br />
FTC-South will increase, not decrease traffic on the 1-5 stretch in south San Clemente where the proposed toll road will merge with 1-5, which is already at over-capacity along this stretch. Northern San Diego County will also be affected by potentially severe increases in traffic congestion. </p>
<p>Expense<br />
The FTC-South is expected to cost close to $1 billion (nearly $53 million a mile). Currently the plan is to fund the project by non-recourse bonds, as well as development impact fees that are already being added to real estate sales in Southern Orange County.<br />
Contrary to TCA claims, these projects are NOT SELF FUNDED! According to an October 10, 2005 article in the Orange County Register, the nearby RT73 Toll Road is “financially struggling” and “faces not being able to make its debt payments in about nine years.” </p>
<p>SAVE TRSTLES! OPPOSE THE TOLL ROAD!<br />
-rally to save it july 25 in irvine. show the support.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you all serious? this toll road is going to ruin the beaches, enviornment, and animlas in the area. this is probably one of th worst ideas. who cares if you have to go a little further? keeping the toll road as it is will help our enviornment in the long road. screw the toll road extension. SAVE TRESTLES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you all serious? this toll road is going to ruin the beaches, enviornment, and animlas in the area. this is probably one of th worst ideas. who cares if you have to go a little further? keeping the toll road as it is will help our enviornment in the long road. screw the toll road extension. SAVE TRESTLES!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More roads bring increases population which bring more roads. The only reason they want this road to be built is to provide a more direct route to the beach for all the new development that the greedy developers want to build. 

It will not decrease traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More roads bring increases population which bring more roads. The only reason they want this road to be built is to provide a more direct route to the beach for all the new development that the greedy developers want to build. </p>
<p>It will not decrease traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to save gas?  Try going the speed limit.  The stop &#38; go traffic on the freeway costs more in gas than the tolls on the toll roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to save gas?  Try going the speed limit.  The stop &amp; go traffic on the freeway costs more in gas than the tolls on the toll roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With gas approaching $5 a gallon, who cares!  Let get some relief at the pump for pete's sake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With gas approaching $5 a gallon, who cares!  Let get some relief at the pump for pete&#8217;s sake!</p>
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		<title>By: al balcazar</title>
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		<dc:creator>al balcazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we need the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we need the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need an alternative to the growing traffic on the I-5.  It doesn't make sense to have a road that ends a few miles short of connecting to the freeway.  Finish the 241 already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need an alternative to the growing traffic on the I-5.  It doesn&#8217;t make sense to have a road that ends a few miles short of connecting to the freeway.  Finish the 241 already!</p>
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