Comments on: Lockyer vs. Arnold in Trestles battle

By: Geoff

Geoff — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 07:14:28 +0000

*typo correction*: “…through San Onofre State Beach, subunit #1 to be precise.”

By: Geoff

Geoff — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 06:57:47 +0000

“I couldn’t even get through the first paragraph of Lockyer’s letter without rolling my eyes - ‘I write to express my strong opposition to the proposed Foothill-South Toll Road through San Onofre State Beach’. As evidence please! correctly notes this toll road does not run through the beach but through the campground…”

And I found it hard to read YOUR statement without rolling my eyes. You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about and it’s clear that you know very little about this issue. San Onofre State Beach consists of three subunits, the largest of which starts near I-5 and runs approximately 4 miles inland, roughly following the path of San Mateo Creek. The TCA’s pay-to-drive highway would run right through this subunit, bisecting it. So actually, Lockyer’s statement is 100% accurate: The toll road WILL run through San Onofre State Beach, subunit #3 to be precise. You want evidence? Just look at a map for cryin’ out loud! Jeez…

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:02:06 +0000

Jack

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By: joe cairo

joe cairo — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:56:11 +0000

The anonymous poster “evidence please” has read something not written in the Lockyer letter. I saw no mention of degraded surf conditions as a reason to oppose 271’s encroaching on sensitive habitat. There WAS a long list of reasons, but quality of surf wasn’t one of them.

Perhaps the fuzzy vision this poster is afflicted with was a result of breathing too much carbon monoxide while sitting in traffic.

By: CP92804

CP92804 — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:34:35 +0000

This should make every citizen in California ill. Using PUBLIC land for private profit is just wrong. Maybe the way to aproach this is to set up some kind of dividend for all citezens of California to be paid on an annual basis like the royalties paid to Alaskans for oil. The toll should be set an appropriate level to make sure that all Californians recieve a dividend of lets say $50.00 a year to compensate us for land that will be used by folks to get home from work a little earlier that they normaly would have.

By: Dill Dough

Dill Dough — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:55:16 +0000

SAVE TRESTLES and ALL of California State Parks!!!! STOP the Toll Road!!!!! Arnold go smoke another cigar.

By: Lou

Lou — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:08:45 +0000

I grew up surfing at Trestles during the 70’s. It’s pretty plain to see that inland development has already altered the waves. During winter rains, the San Mateo creek would flow pretty heavily into the ocean. We used to have to swim across the creek in order to reach Lowers…which is why it was not surfed nearly as frequently as Uppers back in those days. All the development has pretty much halted the flow of the San Mateo to a trickle compared to what it used to be.

Other than that, Trestles still looks pretty much like always has. My concern is that nobody really knows what will happen to the break once the toll road goes in…and those of you who don’t surf think that “a wave is a wave”. Trestles is a world class wave that surfers from all over the world come to enjoy. I’ve heard Japanese, Portuguese, Spanish, French, and even German spoken out in the line-up…because the wave, while not quite as good as it used to be…is still pretty damn good.

The Dana Point marina destroyed a great wave referred to as “Killer Dana”…I would hate to see the same thing happen to Trestles just because you need to save 5 minutes off your commute.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:42:30 +0000

FACT: highways pollute.
FACT: pollution ruins beaches.
FACT: the 241 will run several miles down a creek that flows into Trestles.

Please, help yourself to a science book if you want more evidence that road runoff pollutes.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:30:15 +0000

I couldn’t even get through the first paragraph of Lockyer’s letter without rolling my eyes - “I write to express my strong opposition to the proposed Foothill-South Toll Road through San Onofre State Beach”. As “evidence please!” correctly notes this toll road does not run through the beach but through the campground that is east of the 5. I know, I know this will disrupt the creek and Trestles, yada yada… but the statement about running through the beach is just plain misleading. Thank you Gov. Schwarzenegger for supporting the toll road that will provide traffic relief in South OC.

By: evidence please!

evidence please! — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:22:38 +0000

What if it were alleged that surfers were causing the death and decimation of the steelhead trout. If it weren’t for surfers at Trestles, the steelhead would be abundant, but thanks to surfers, the Steelhead are on the verge of extinction. The only thing that can save the Steelhead is to stop the surfers at Trestles.

This is the equivilant of the argument that building a road a half-mile from the beach (with a freeway and train track in between the road and the beach) will have any impact on the surf at Trestles.

There is zero evidence of this, yet the lie keeps getting repeated. OUTRAGEOUS!